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1nf3n0

January 18th, 2006, 12:22 PM

come on guys you all know of them. what you all think?? i dont agree with them but hey! read this dicusion i had with one (he's the one all like gods amazing and ill be saved) read from bottem up

You can crash a perfectly good car. There was nothing wrong with the man and woman that God made. We screwed up, not God.

Damian

On 1/17/06, laurence walder <laurence_walder@hotmail.com> wrote:
But if you were sold a faulty car you wouldn't blame yourself but the person
who sold it to you. God gave us free will, with it we are able to make
faulty decisions. So should we blame our selves for a faulty being? No god
gave us the "faulty goods" so should we not complain? If god gave us free
will then being bad is what we were designed to do? Surely?

>From: "Damian J. Anderson" < damian.anderson@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Damian.Anderson@gmail.com
>To: laurence walder <laurence_walder@hotmail.com >
>Subject: Re: WorldTies: Ziggida Rises From 3-Day Reconciliation Meeting
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:53:31 -0500
>
>Laurence,
>
>God gave us free will for a purpose, namely, that he wanted us to become
>his
>partners in love, so that we and He could experience love and joy together
>with each other and with Him. He did not damn us. Your resentment towards
>God is based on a false understanding of God. We fell into terrible
>misfortune because our ancestors Adam and Eve failed to fulfill their
>responsibility to become the embodiment of love. It was not because of God.
>The mission of the Messiah us to accomplish that standard of love and to
>teach us all to do the same, to restore what was lost.
>
>Damian
>
>On 1/16/06, laurence walder <laurence_walder@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > but god gave us the power and as he is omipotent he would know that we
> > would
> > do bad things... there for he damned us from the monment he gave us free
> > will. he would have seen the wars and chaos we would cause so he is the
> > one
> > responsible. were taliing fate here not god surley?
> >
> >
> > >From: "Damian J. Anderson" <damian.anderson@gmail.com >
> > >Reply-To: Damian.Anderson@gmail.com
> > >To: laurence walder <laurence_walder@hotmail.com >
> > >Subject: Re: WorldTies: Ziggida Rises From 3-Day Reconciliation Meeting
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:12:15 -0500
> > >
> > >God gave you the power to think and act so that you could love as He
> > loves,
> > >and He could experience the joy of love through you. If you choose to
>use
> > >that power for an evil purpose, that is your choice, your
>responsibility,
> > >your problem.
> > >
> > >Damian Anderson
> > >
> > >On 1/13/06, laurence walder <laurence_walder@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but god gave us he power to think evil thoughts (adam an eve) there
> > for
> > > > our
> > > > evil actions are the result of his creation so all mistakes are his.
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Damian J. Anderson" <damian.anderson@gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: Damian.Anderson@gmail.com
> >To: laurence walder <laurence_walder@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: WorldTies: Ziggida Rises From 3-Day Reconciliation
> > Meeting
> > > > >Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:02:30 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >God does not damn you. You damn yourself. If you live selfishly as
> > >Satan
> > > > >does, you will live with him. If you live unselfishly as God does,
> > you
> > > > will
> > > > >live with Him. Your behavior is your choice, and your destination
>is
> > >the
> > > > >result.
> > > > >
> > > > >Damian Anderson
> > > > >
> > > > >On 1/12/06, laurence walder < laurence_walder@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but if i worship or even like satan then by going to hell i
>will
> > be
> > > > >with
> > > > > > the one i want! to damn me god would have to send me to heaven
>as
> > >this
> > > > >for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > satanist would be hell?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Damian J. Anderson" < damian.anderson@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: Damian.Anderson@gmail.com
> > > > > > >To: laurence walder < laurence_walder@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: WorldTies: Ziggida Rises From 3-Day Reconciliation
> > > > Meeting
> > > > > > >Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:12:43 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Satan is real, yes. If you live selfishly, you will live with
> > >Satan.
> > > > If
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >live and love unselfishly, you can live with God. It is your
> > >choice.
> > > > >This
> > > > > > >religion is my choice because it works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Damian Anderson
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 1/11/06, laurence walder < laurence_walder@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but why choose this religion? any way; found loop holes in
> > > > > > the bible,
> > > > > > > > listen: god say's that we cannot worship false idles and
>if
> > we
> > > > do
> > > > >we
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > go to hell, now he say's the devils real right? there for I
> > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > to practise Satanism as he is not a false idle but real
> > as god
> > > > > > himself
> > > > > > > > says so, and his word is infallible so, cannot be condemned
> > and
> > > > sent
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > damnation distrusting no?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Damian J. Anderson" < damian.anderson@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: Damian.Anderson@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >To: laurence walder < laurence_walder@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: WorldTies: Ziggida Rises From 3-Day
> > Reconciliation
> > > > > > Meeting
> > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:21:15 -0500
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I believe that if we apply the DP to our lives, then we can
> > > > > > accomplish
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >goal of restoration, to leave Satan's dominion and to enter
> > the
> > > > > > direct
> > > > > > > > >dominion of God.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Damian
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >On 1/10/06, laurence walder < laurence_walder@hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > sup'? you still believe it all then?? whens old mooney
> > > > imortal?

> > > > > > > > > > so what you up to?
> > > > > > > > > >

1nf3n0

January 20th, 2006, 10:29 AM

The term "Moonies" refers to members of Sun Myung Moon's controversial Unification Movement. Members prefer the term Unificationist. The term was coined by the New York newspapers, The Daily News and The New York Post, in 1974 during their "Madison Square Garden" campaign. The prevailing media-created term "Moonchildren" didn't easily fit a tabloid-size headline.

A kind of urban legend among Unificationists holds that Cat Stevens had studied the Divine Principle in the early 70s and had incorporated some of the church's themes in his rock music, particularly in the song Moonshadow. However in a 2004 interview with United Press International vice president Larry Moffitt (a Unificationist) the singer, who had left the music business in 1974 and adopted the name Yusuf Islam, set the record straight. He said "Moonshadow" was inspired by seeing his own shadow by the light of a full moon on a beach in Spain. He said, "I looked down and, even though it seems like an obvious thing, I noticed for the first time that the full moon is bright enough to cast shadows." He said he had never studied the Divine Principle.

After some years of going along with the media's use of the term, the Unificationists did an about face in the mid 1980s, when they asked major media organizations to stop referring to them as "Moonies," on the grounds that it is demeaning. The term has since fallen into disuse, except as a pejorative, such as when The Washington Times (founded by Rev. Moon) is referred to as the "Moonie Paper."

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