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Inactive Cargo
January 16th, 2006, 12:00 AM
// In the context of hell:
Satan: "And the correct religion was... the mormons!"
Everybody: "Aww..."
Even though it's a joke from southpark, I think it says more about modern day religion than anything I've ever seen before.
Mad_Monkey
January 16th, 2006, 12:42 AM
lol
well ya never really kno what religion is right
there are so many out there and none of them can really coexist together
as for me i just go with the flow.....i have no religion...i just have fun with what i got
ill worry about it when the time comes
Mastaninjapirate
January 16th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Maybe it doesn't matter what you have faith in, just as long as you have faith.
Mad_Monkey
January 16th, 2006, 03:51 AM
but haven faith can also give u false hope
semiavrage
January 16th, 2006, 04:22 AM
There doesn't NEED to be a "right" religion. Not all religions even have the idea of a "god" or "heaven," for example, buddhism. There is no "right" religion, they all have different ideas, morals, and et cetera. Whats important is having faith in whatever religion you are.
Personally, I don't have any religion, I'm not athiest, but I'm not a very religious guy either. I think that religions can teach us things nothing else can, morals, correct ways to act, etc. Now, its time for me to sign off my computer, so I'll go. ^^
ChaosTheory
January 16th, 2006, 06:10 AM
Correct religion is there really such a thing i mean does anyone know how many religions there are cause if someone knows i wish theyd tell me lol.
semiavrage
January 16th, 2006, 05:25 PM
Correct religion is there really such a thing i mean does anyone know how many religions there are cause if someone knows i wish theyd tell me lol.
There are a great number, here is an interesting site with data on many of them: http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm
klo1313
January 16th, 2006, 05:49 PM
I think it was a Rowan Atkinson standup act in which he was playing satan, he said "I'm sorry everyone but, the Jews are right. The jews, yes."
Then he had the murderers on the left and the lawyers on the right.
Mastaninjapirate
January 16th, 2006, 08:49 PM
In middle school, a freind and I took up a new religion. Wallism. See, walls are an amazing phenomenon. They surround us everywhere we go, just like God. They see and hear all! There is no escape! You can go outside, but there are still walls of every kind. The religion also had something to do with sporks, melted jolly-ranchers, and chincillas but I'm not entirely sure. Once, I had to write a spork-poem as an offering to the south wall or else it'd devour my hands.
PieMaster
January 17th, 2006, 03:14 PM
The only definate solution would be the complete abolition of all religion.
Except Buddhism.
ChaosTheory
January 17th, 2006, 09:45 PM
thanks for the website. :)
Badeballen
January 17th, 2006, 11:02 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Dobbsicon.jpg
HolyOrangeDoom
January 18th, 2006, 11:09 PM
As an atheist, not only do I believe that there is no true religion, but that any religion is fake. Now, I don't have anything wrong with belief in a religion - I just don't think that there is a God, or an afterlife, or - well - whatever Buddhists believe in as a god, if they believe in anything. (Buddhism, of course, is often more of a philosophy or lifestyle than a religion, but you all seem to know that.)
No, my real problem is not with faith in a higher being, but with organized religion. I think that most organized religions today have long outlived the purposes they once had that have given them so much power, although they still do some good things. For example, the Roman Catholic Church, although technically bereft of political power outside the Vatican, has quite a bit of clout with many governments in Europe and North America. In the Dark Ages, this made since; "Christendom" had to be defended from invasions by the Islamic empires of the day, and the Church often helped hold together countries that were still struggling to gain a national identity. Today, this is no longer a problem; the Church has outlived its usefulness in that regard.
Of course, on a more local level, many people get physical and spiritual comfort from their faith and from charities or programs run by religious organizations, and these are certainly not bad things. So, I'm not utterly opposed to organized religion, but to extremely large institutions like the RCC or very extreme groups like Al'Qaeda and Hamas.
EmeraldFalcon89
January 19th, 2006, 02:37 AM
I agree that religion goes very, very wrong when pastors, priests, rabbis, E.T.C go beyond organization and presentation of God's word, and go into translation and interpretation of the Bible. That's how stuff like the Crusades starts.
HolyOrangeDoom
January 19th, 2006, 05:11 AM
That's exactly what I meant - from the Crusades in the medieval times to the "War on Terror" now, which was caused both by radical Islamic groups and a government supported by plenty of church-going "theocons". It happens in social issues, too, such as abortion, and recently, physician-assisted suicide; who are the religious leaders to make personal choices for others?
dEUS
January 19th, 2006, 05:19 AM
There's no such thing as a right religion.
Mr.Badguy
January 19th, 2006, 10:11 AM
Man invented religion because they were afraid of death.
Mastaninjapirate
January 19th, 2006, 11:19 AM
People have always had some kind of spiritual need, some sort of higher power to know the things they don't. Like the Aztecs with their human sacrifice and holding the still beating heart up to the sun. In the name of religion, millions have killed and been killed. Are they all really "equal ways to the truth"?
If you know 'religion' to mean 'devotion to some principle; strict fidelity or faithfullness;conscientiousness;pious affection or attachment,' then most people, including atheists and agnostics, do have some form of religious devotion in their lives.-- The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary.
HolyOrangeDoom
January 20th, 2006, 01:06 AM
I think that's an interesting definition, but I don't think it's what most people think of as religion. Most religions are going to have some kind of divine or spiritual component to them, as well as principles and ideas about how to live.
On another note, about "equal ways to the truth", my friends and I started a religion a few months back called Orangism or the Orange Templar, based around the belief that everything in existence was made up of some kind of divine Orange matter (the color, not the fruit). Is a 'religion' with less than 10 active members, even if it has rules and principles, viable? Or would you just pass it off as some weird cult, no matter how noble its ideas are?
Mastaninjapirate
January 20th, 2006, 01:22 AM
If the ideals and goals are, in the practitioners eyes, noble, and the nobility can only be reached through some higher power (in this case 'orange matter') then I think it can be named "religion."
PieMaster
January 20th, 2006, 01:42 AM
Man invented religion because they were afraid of death.
Not so fast.
Also because Man is afraid of being alone and having an meaningless existence.
HolyOrangeDoom
January 20th, 2006, 03:59 AM
Wow, someone I don't know personally validated my admittedly ridiculous religion. I'm pleasantly surprised. Don't get the idea that I actually believe in it, though. I'm not that messed up in the head.
Frezarion
January 24th, 2006, 05:30 AM
I consider myself atheist, but only because I don't know whether a God exists or not. I think that actually means I'm agnostic, I'm not up on the whole terminology of what's going on with religion anymore. All I know is, some of us are saved and some of us are screwed, that's the general opinion. I don't have a religion right now, so I suppose I'm universally screwed for the time being. I hope to make up my mind and come to a decision on religion sometime pretty soon, but we'll see how that goes. I'm pretty accepting of everybody else's religions. I don't care if you believe in Jesus or Buhda (sure I spelled that wrong) or the Flying Spagetti Monster with his noodly-apendages. Whatever, you can believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. My friend's theory is that we're all gonna go to heaven anyway, what you believe just determines how long you have to spend in hell before you get to go to heaven. I kinda like that idea, it means everyone's saved no matter what you believe.
moonshin3
January 24th, 2006, 07:40 PM
It's Buddha (worship the fat guy, yeah! ... well, you don't worship him, but you get my meaning).
I believe in a heaven and a hell. I just don't think anyone goes there. We all go to some black void and our souls die with our bodies. Literally, I'm a pagan, which means I have no set religion. I'm not into witchcraft or anything like that cause that's what people think when they see "pagan."
Scotty
January 25th, 2006, 11:50 PM
the morman religion is...weird... have you heard the origin of it? i heard it on south park on a different episode, i am not sure how acurate it was but it still seems kinda like a ....LIE
ranger_waha
February 5th, 2006, 07:26 PM
the morman religion is...weird... have you heard the origin of it? i heard it on south park on a different episode, i am not sure how acurate it was but it still seems kinda like a ....LIE
It was an approximate spoof of their religion. It was started by Joe smith, he did find the tablets, etc. etc., but the south park creators found this endlessly funny, and so managed to take what so many mid western U.S. people beleive in, and expose it to the masses. What sounds serious to the mormons...
1koni1
February 5th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Of course, south park has aliens, the obvious misspelling of "jew", the building of a stairway to heaven, people thinking they are getting their period, when all they have is some kind of anal desease. What I really dont see is how south park is thought to be a valid source. It seems that our social progress is baised apon the thought that whatever is seen on TV is real. though some people will flat-out refuse to believe that, it seems they fall into the same pit as the people who take their cues from TV and know it.
Jack90
February 6th, 2006, 01:12 AM
Ever since the dawn of man, we've always needed something to believe in. Something to explain what happened in the world around us. Why did the sun go up and down, why does the water flow, why were we created... blah blah blah.
I myself am Christian. I've been raised Christian, and I take the initiative to be a Christian. I'm not a perfect person, and I won't go around saying "I'm Holier than Thou!", but I will share my beliefs.
Yeah, I agree with other Christians that Jesus is the key to salvation, and God is the only true God. I also agree with the idea of respect for other religions. I don't go around saying "OMG! YOU'RE A JEW! (unless it's my friend... then we just make fun of each other...) YOU'RE GONNA GO TO HELL!"
So yeah...
Hacky
February 6th, 2006, 03:21 AM
Of course, south park has aliens, the obvious misspelling of "jew", the building of a stairway to heaven, people thinking they are getting their period, when all they have is some kind of anal desease. What I really dont see is how south park is thought to be a valid source. It seems that our social progress is baised apon the thought that whatever is seen on TV is real. though some people will flat-out refuse to believe that, it seems they fall into the same pit as the people who take their cues from TV and know it.
The creators of South Park do joke around a lot, but in the episodes regarding Mormans and Scientology they used factual beliefs to point out the stupidity. There is actually a lot of facts in the most random of episodes that they use to point out stupidity of certain things.
System_Zero
February 6th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Technically, Buddhism is more of a philosophy or way of life than a religion.
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