About making drugs

[CtpUK]

I'm currently reading organic chemistry and mathematics (bioinformatics) at college. I learn a lot there ranging from chemic DNA analysis to the manufacturing of LSD and similar drugs. Although learning to manufacture drugs is more a side effect of learning advanced chemistry.

I'm a pretty curious person and would like to "try out" if i really can make meth, acid or whatever. But the question is: is this illegal? I mean I'm not going to sell or actually use it.

If I don't sell the shit I would probably don't get caugth as the only thing i would do is to cook something in the lab i got in my basement. There are re no suspicious chemical involved either.

But the questions remains is it really legal, I would not like to break the law, would I. If it is illegal that's a break of the peoples liberty. Honesty I don't get why drugs are illegal at all, you only hurt yourself and, according to me, you should be allowed to do anything with everything you own, including yourself, unless you hurt anybody else.

[pnemethy]

If your chemistry ability is as poor as your logic, I wouldn't be ingesting anything that you cooked up.

[Inactive Cargo]

You want to learn how to make drugs, so you discretely post about it in the public section of 1337.com?

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/index.html

[Kale]

Wow...just wow.

I predict either an explosion, arrest, poisoning, or death. Possibly a combination of some or all.

[Confero]

You'd be surprised what I've seen some kids cook up. If you manage to get a hold of MDMA or DMT, let's meet up.

[CtpUK]

You want to learn how to make drugs, so you discretely post about it in the public section of 1337.com?

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/index.html

Did I say that I wanted to learn how to make drugs? I asked if it was illegal, I know how to make drugs by all means. Sp that's not the question here but rather the legal aspect of cooking illegal drugs.

[Inactive Cargo]

Sp that's not the question here but rather the legal aspect of cooking illegal drugs.p thinp yop answep youp owp questiop.

[Hacky]

Look up the laws on possession. Yes, it is illegal to create them. It's illegal to have them on your person, even if you don't know about them. To a cop, if you have it, then you have every intent to use it. Saying "I was just doing a chemical experiment!", yeah, that's bullshit to a police officer or the criminal justice system. Stick to making Napalm and explosive goodies.

[Kinetix]

I'm currently reading organic chemistry and mathematics (bioinformatics) at college. I learn a lot there ranging from chemic DNA analysis to the manufacturing of LSD and similar drugs. Although learning to manufacture drugs is more a side effect of learning advanced chemistry.

I'm a pretty curious person and would like to "try out" if i really can make meth, acid or whatever. But the question is: is this illegal? I mean I'm not going to sell or actually use it.

If I don't sell the shit I would probably don't get caugth as the only thing i would do is to cook something in the lab i got in my basement. There are re no suspicious chemical involved either.

But the questions remains is it really legal, I would not like to break the law, would I. If it is illegal that's a break of the peoples liberty. Honesty I don't get why drugs are illegal at all, you only hurt yourself and, according to me, you should be allowed to do anything with everything you own, including yourself, unless you hurt anybody else.

Nothing like posting in the PUBLIC forum to really get those police looking.

[MaudKip]

I'm currently reading organic chemistry and mathematics (bioinformatics) at college. I learn a lot there ranging from chemic DNA analysis to the manufacturing of LSD and similar drugs. Although learning to manufacture drugs is more a side effect of learning advanced chemistry.

I'm a pretty curious person and would like to "try out" if i really can make meth, acid or whatever. But the question is: is this illegal? I mean I'm not going to sell or actually use it.

If I don't sell the shit I would probably don't get caugth as the only thing i would do is to cook something in the lab i got in my basement. There are re no suspicious chemical involved either.

But the questions remains is it really legal, I would not like to break the law, would I. If it is illegal that's a break of the peoples liberty. Honesty I don't get why drugs are illegal at all, you only hurt yourself and, according to me, you should be allowed to do anything with everything you own, including yourself, unless you hurt anybody else.

WTF?!!
Your avatar is to freaky X_x
It kept me from bothering to read your thread.

[Evonus]

Well if you know anything about chemistry at all you know that you usually get 2 types of products when involved with a chiral molecule like most drugs. You can get the R or S version. Unless you have a way to only favor one you get equal amounts of both, and sometimes even with making one more favorable you still get some of the other. Thus, unless you know what these other molecules do, I wouldn't try making drugs in your basement, because there's a high chance of there being some reagent that you didn't plan on and you dying as a result.

[Slevin57]

*Ahem*

Title 21, Chapter 13, Part D

Section 858. Endangering human life while illegally manufacturing controlled substance

Whoever, while manufacturing a controlled substance in violation
of this subchapter, or attempting to do so, or transporting or
causing to be transported materials, including chemicals, to do so,
creates a substantial risk of harm to human life shall be fined in
accordance with title 18 or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or
both.

ection 861. Employment or use of persons under 18 years of age in drug operations

(a) Unlawful acts
It shall be unlawful for any person at least eighteen years of
age to knowingly and intentionally -
(1) employ, hire, use, persuade, induce, entice, or coerce, a
person under eighteen years of age to violate any provision of
this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter;
(2) employ, hire, use, persuade, induce, entice, or coerce, a
person under eighteen years of age to assist in avoiding
detection or apprehension for any offense of this subchapter or
subchapter II of this chapter by any Federal, State, or local law
enforcement official; or
(3) receive a controlled substance from a person under 18 years
of age, other than an immediate family member, in violation of
this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter.
(b) Penalty for first offense
Any person who violates subsection (a) of this section is subject
to twice the maximum punishment otherwise authorized and at least
twice any term of supervised release otherwise authorized for a
first offense. Except to the extent a greater minimum sentence is
otherwise provided, a term of imprisonment under this subsection
shall not be less than one year.
(c) Penalty for subsequent offenses
Any person who violates subsection (a) of this section after a
prior conviction under subsection (a) of this section has become
final, is subject to three times the maximum punishment otherwise
authorized and at least three times any term of supervised release
otherwise authorized for a first offense. Except to the extent a
greater minimum sentence is otherwise provided, a term of
imprisonment under this subsection shall not be less than one year.
Penalties for third and subsequent convictions shall be governed by
section 841(b)(1)(A) of this title.
(d) Penalty for providing or distributing controlled substance to
underage person
Any person who violates subsection (a)(1) or (2) of this section
(!1)

(1) by knowingly providing or distributing a controlled
substance or a controlled substance analogue to any person under
eighteen years of age; or
(2) if the person employed, hired, or used is fourteen years of
age or younger,

shall be subject to a term of imprisonment for not more than five
years or a fine of not more than $50,000, or both, in addition to
any other punishment authorized by this section.
(e) Suspension of sentence; probation; parole
In any case of any sentence imposed under this section,
imposition or execution of such sentence shall not be suspended and
probation shall not be granted. An individual convicted under this
section of an offense for which a mandatory minimum term of
imprisonment is applicable shall not be eligible for parole under
section 4202 of title 18 (!2) until the individual has served the
mandatory term of imprisonment as enhanced by this section.

(f) Distribution of controlled substance to pregnant individual
Except as authorized by this subchapter, it shall be unlawful for
any person to knowingly or intentionally provide or distribute any
controlled substance to a pregnant individual in violation of any
provision of this subchapter. Any person who violates this
subsection shall be subject to the provisions of subsections (b),
(c), and (e) of this section.


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Yes it is illegal. By no stretch of the imagination could creating anything in your home with chemicals that even resembles drugs, be legal.

[System_Zero]

Illegal drugs is illegal.

[Confero]

Dear druggies,


Thanks for all the money.

Love,

xDustinx



I guess I should share with you that buying most of the chemicals online needed to synthesis MDMA (Ecstasy) or DMT lands you on the DEA watch list. If you really need to cook something up to get high, just buy some weed and make brownies, or make tea with mushrooms.

I also must thank you Slevin for the lulz. Are you a police cadet? You seem to very passionate about following the law.

[crooked]

Dear Confero,

you have the right to remain silent. You have the right to an attorny etc.


Love,

- John Q Law

[Slevin57]

Dear druggies,


Thanks for all the money.

Love,

xDustinx



I guess I should share with you that buying most of the chemicals online needed to synthesis MDMA (Ecstasy) or DMT lands you on the DEA watch list. If you really need to cook something up to get high, just buy some weed and make brownies, or make tea with mushrooms.

I also must thank you Slevin for the lulz. Are you a police cadet? You seem to very passionate about following the law.

No sir. I am not a sheeple.

[CtpUK]

Okey, after beeing owned a coupple of times I admitt that making illegal chemical is a stupid idea. :)


Nothing like posting in the PUBLIC forum to really get those police looking.

I would neveer surf the net without using a proxy anonymous server, so that dosn't bother me very much, thank you. ;P

[Slevin57]

Well unless your proxy is being run offshore...you might as well mail your history and temporary internet files to the FBI everyweek....like I do.

[CtpUK]

Well unless your proxy is being run offshore...you might as well mail your history and temporary internet files to the FBI everyweek....like I do.

If you check my IP adress you will find out that I live in Sweden. :)

[Slevin57]

If you check my IP adress you will find out that I live in Sweden. :)

Good our agents can Ski and eat fine chocolate while pursuing you

We got Leonardo DiCaprio. We will get you! :P

[Inactive Cargo]

If you check my IP adress you will find out that I live in Sweden. :)So it's legal to make drugs in Sweden? Brilliant logic, dumbass.

[CtpUK]

Good our agents can Ski and eat fine chocolate while pursuing you

We got Leonardo DiCaprio. We will get you! :P

I don't live in Sweden but forget that I said that because I want people that want to trace me to believe that. :)


So it's legal to make drugs in Sweden? Brilliant logic, dumbass.

The discussion was about my proxy and that it was showing that I lived in Sweden, which i don't ( it wouldn't help much to use proxies if I told you where I live right).

EDIT:

Dear druggies,


Thanks for all the money.

Love,

xDustinx



I guess I should share with you that buying most of the chemicals online needed to synthesis MDMA (Ecstasy) or DMT lands you on the DEA watch list. If you really need to cook something up to get high, just buy some weed and make brownies, or make tea with mushrooms.

I also must thank you Slevin for the lulz. Are you a police cadet? You seem to very passionate about following the law.

Meth can easily be synthesised from chemicals you can buy in your local food store (read: acetone and benzene).

[System_Zero]

Yeah many government agencies keep an eye out for large purchase of said chemicals. That's the 1st step to leading to a bust.

[Slevin57]

Yeah even some GD clerks at grocery stores are trained to not allow people to buy the household shit that will make meth.

That's why I bought my lab off ebay.

[Rab]

Hi, my name is Rab and I'm addicted to crack cocaine!

[the.doctor]

Hi, my name is Doc and I'm GAY!

[Element]

Dear druggies,


Thanks for all the money.

Love,

xDustinx


YW good sir. :salute:

[Meltdown]

Creating meth you use some pretty volatile but easy to get stuff. Theres always someone blowing themselves up making that shit.

LSD25 on the other hand is alot harder to make and the key ingredient from ergot is hard to come by. There is currently a much simpler way to make it but that is all I will say on the topic now.

[the.doctor]

Holy shit its Meltdown!
Did you get lost or something?

also: I herd u can maek E with antifreeze - is dere ne truth 2 dis?

[Tegro]

Nothing like posting in the PUBLIC forum to really get those police looking.

Like the police are really going to GAF....

[MasterGlitch]

Yeah many government agencies keep an eye out for large purchase of said chemicals. That's the 1st step to leading to a bust.

Right, but only because the people are stupid and buy it all at once in one place.
You see, the trick is to buy it all slowly from different stores in different cities and pay for it all in cash. That way they can't track your purchases and they won't notice any one store selling high amounts of those chemicals. You buy it slowly so there isn't even a high amount of sales in an area at one short amount of time.
You just have to be clever in the way you buy chemicals, especially if you plan on using those chemicals for illegal things.

Back on topic: Yes, making drugs is absolutely illegal, even if you don't actually use or sell them. It's kind of like having an open unit of alcohol(be it an open bottle or open cardboard case) in the front of your car. You may not have actually been drinking any, and it may only be a coincidence that it's open, but it's illegal to have it there because of the possibilities.

[Subsisgood]

Growing is easier >:3