Time Travel

[Darkytehsexydrood]

Ok come on we all know the government has looked into it alot, do you think they have done it? What do ya think they have changed? OR would change? Or how do you look upon the thing we see out of our eyes?

[crooked]

the way i see it, reality is an experience of constantly changing space-time. we have no idea it is changing because the past changes along with the present.

i think its very possible that time travel takes place regularly.

[Sofa of Death]

look, they already made a time machine......


it's a box, and you sit in it, and it takes a year to work..... but once it works, you'll be one year into the future!!!

[Darkytehsexydrood]

Wow... thats why your the mod..and super member dude? ( what is crooked?).... you just blew my mind a lil... I think.. yea...
I am still wondering about Back to the Future :confused: great response lets hear some more views on this idea...

[Shins]

While time travel may be possible in higher dimensions, since the time line could be manifest as a tangible thing to be seen, and possibly, manipulated, it doesn't seem feasible for any third-dimensional being to be capable of such a feat.

As it stands, we are aware of time, but always at its mercy, being pushed forward.

[mwknowles92]

I don't think we really need to be messing with time. Just watch the Butterfly Effect and you'll see what I mean.
I don't think they'd figure a way to do it in my life time or the next either.

[The muffin man]

Well obviously everything that will be changed has already been changed and there is no way to know the difference.

[low tech]

The way I see it, time travel is too complex and riddled with pardoxes to be of any use or harnessed properly. (i.e. The Grandfather Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox)) There's a lot to read there.

[Darkytehsexydrood]

Hum well I have done some reseach on the peradox ideas, but we can't prove any thing, I can't stand here and stay Time has NEVER be altered...

[temporary]

I want Uncle Rico's time machine.

http://forevergeek.com/images/urtimemachine.jpg


You know...the one from Napoleon Dynamite.

[Darkytehsexydrood]

LOl heres a link to a website that has a real wroking time machine...

http://www.futurehorizons.net/time.htm

heh well It may just be like triping on acid.. but.. hell lol

[Slevin57]

Time Travel is possible. I do not believe we are anywhere near to achieving it.

The government doesn't have the ability to Time travel, or there would be no democratic party.

[MattyTheTurner]

Time Travel is somewhat possible;

I learned in my Physics class that if you can travel at the speed of light, time slows down realtive to the object.

That is, if person A stands still and person B travels at the speed of light for 20 years (relative to person A) , when person B comes back, he would have only aged 10 years. It's a bit hard to get your head around, but it would work.

Also: I you could travel faster than the speed of light (more than 299 792 458 metres a second), then you COULD travel back in time. True, but going faster than this is impossible, since the rules of the universe revolve around the fact that light has to be the fastest thing in the universe.

Weird. But it works, physically.

~Matty

[irishspud]

agreed with above. except you have to be going faster than the speed of light to "slow time" This is how a black hole works too. If you are sucked into a black hole, you will be killed instantly, BUT at the same time, since you will be travelling so fast, that you will break the speed of light (whether intact or not) and time will ,in theory, stop. so, 1000 years from when you get into this black hole and you die, observers can still fly by and see you getting sucked in. incase you haven't heard, the crew that went to the moon is about .0000002 seconds younger than what they should be. anyways, yeah. i got pizza rolls to eat now.

[Green Hat Linux]

the way i see it, reality is an experience of constantly changing space-time. we have no idea it is changing because the past changes along with the present.

i think its very possible that time travel takes place regularly.

"A Tale Of Time City" anyone?

[irishspud]

this conversation reminds me of another topic. Quantum teleportation. It is theorized that every atom has a possibility of being where its not. this possibility is said to be very great, i'll say about 1 in 99 billion. but, if we could harness it and make it so the atoms DO go to these other places when they shouldn't be there at once, then you will teleport. i don't fully understand this, so its hard to explain, but it is possible in theory. Although the teleportation of large objects or humans still remains a fantasy, quantum teleportation has become a laboratory reality for photons, the individual particles of light.

[Trainwreck]

i think that theres something wrong with reverse time travel (going back in time), because they either haven't figured it out, or something bad happened. Something really bad!

because they haven't come back to tell us, and you'd think they would have. (i mean, there's the occasional nut-job that says he's from hte future, but that doesn't count)

nobody has come back in time, because when they created the ability to go back in time, something tremendous happened. and it wasn't good.

[KillHour]

Time is just a dimension. If you can bend the fourth dimension through the fifth, viola': time travel.

[Trainwreck]

but only forward, because otherwise, you'd have to bend the 4th through the 3rd, or am i incorrect?

[KillHour]

Nope, the 4th dimension works the same backwards as it does forwards.

[Hacky]

KillHour talks as those that's proven.

It isn't.

Time as a tangable force isn't even proven.

Until I see it happen, I won't believe it.

[Green Hat Linux]

remember, the 4th dimension is in fact Time itself, correct?

[KillHour]

According to string theory, which is currently the most accepted theory, yes.

Prove evolution :P

[Hacky]

Look at butterflies, or the finches in the Galapagos islands. 100% proof for me of Evolution.

String theory is unproven at all, with no major evidence. Just a theory. Like the Big Bang Theory.

Evolution is proven. Micro, not Macro, becuase I know that is where you were going with that.

Until I see it, I won't believe it.

[KillHour]

If you are the "seeing is believing type", then you shouldn't believe in tons of stuff you take for granted. Have you noticed how many things we "know" were just told to us by higher authorities, and we accept it without question? Have YOU ever gone to the Galapagos? Have YOU ever looked into an electron microscope and seen individual atoms? You have to have faith in some things, and you have to realize that you can't know everything.

There's good reason to support string theory, but the math behind it is so complex, you'll just have to trust the physicists on this one.

[Hacky]

I don't care about string theory being fake or false. They can explain it to me until they're blue in the face. But it's still all in theory. This works this way, so theoretically, this should work like this.

I have seen factual evidence of the finches' beaks changing size with the seasons, and butterflies/moths changing the colors of their wings. Look at the world around you, we see evolution all the time infront of our very eyes from person to person.

I refuse to sit here and say "We can go back in time" until somebody goes back in time. Sure, you might think it possible, and they can try. If they do it, more power to them, I now accept it.

But I won't say it CAN be done until it IS done.

I'm not a "seeing is believing type" I don't care about things I haven't seen. I care about things that have been PROVEN. Not mathematically, but experimentally.

Math is good, but experiments prove it.

I've done experiments with my own hands that prove to me that electrons at different energy levels give off certain colors when exicted then go back to their ground state. That's proof of atoms for me. Could you list off anything else that you claim I blindly know becuase "higher authorities" told us?

Those who question the world around them are the ones who are truly intelligent. Those who accept what they're told, like what you're doing, are the fools.

[Darkytehsexydrood]

Time Travel is possible. I do not believe we are anywhere near to achieving it.

The government doesn't have the ability to Time travel, or there would be no democratic party.

^ heh LOL

But hacky, sadly even with time travel, If I got in a box right now and went back in time, and killed a tree, Theres no proof I ever left...so maybe I do have a time machine.....haha most my teachers won't even discuss time travel.. there to manny things that can't be proved... What is Time.. its the 4th part of are cube?
I think Time is like an energy.

But What I can't stand is the whole " What I'm I ? What is my purpose here? and Why can i make these questions?" Why couldn't I just be a dumb ass fish or somthing?... But how do we know fish don't have time machines? Maybe fish just play dumb..., but rly there ruleing the world??... I think i got off topic...O well :p

[MattyTheTurner]

just so long as there is conflict, there will be splits. Divorces show that. So why not on a larger scale?

Anyways, I should be talking about this in the other thread...

[Hacky]

Darkytehsexydrood, yeah, there is no real proof. Go back in time and alter something, wouldn't, theoretically, you have done that in the past. SO really, you do nothing. Either that or it creates an alternate dimension where you change all sorts of shit.

In addition, you can prove it if it can be done. Go back in time a matter of minutes.

My problem with backwards time travel is that it creates matter. Forwards merely transports it. If you go back anything less than hundreds of thousands of years, you're creating matter. Go back minutes? Well, there will be two of you. One person occupying two different areas for a period of time. Even going back hundreds of years, you're still in a world with your ancestors, who will give birth to your grandparents, who give birth to your parents who give birth to you.

I'll stand beside the law of Conservation of mass before I do String Theory, most specifically that single part of string theory.

[Darkytehsexydrood]

Heh, well your right in saying that matter can't be created, BUT That Idea was never tested with time travel... as my wacko teach says " Science is always changing, things being changed, and redonw , and taken back.." sooo Maybe if ya go back in time .. I mean WAY back.. YOU BECOME GOD>>>>> yea... GOD is some dude with a time machine..... Could be...... hey never know....., but time travel is real.... If you built some kinda of ship that could get close to a black hole... and slowly get up to and pass the speed of light, you gotta go kinda slow or i think you would turn inside out.. or some shit :p... But then you could beat time.. But what I like is the idea of maken you own black hole.. to get to places faster the ...space is paper and ya fold it in half and poke a pen in it to get to the other side...

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[Evonus]

According to string theory, which is currently the most accepted theory, yes.

Prove evolution :P

Evolution has like 8 bajillion times more evidence behind it than string theory.

I do think there will be time travel one day, not in the sense we think of though. I think people will be able to time travel themselves, not the world around them, meaning I could be 16 again right now, but I could be myself right now and go back to when I was 16.

[MattyTheTurner]

http://rubak.com/article.cfm?ID=16

Check it out. Pretty good, I reckon. He describes it pretty well, and I agree with most of what he says.

[SyrupyDeathtrap]

I could be 16 again right now, but I could be myself right now and go back to when I was 16.

You fail.

[MasterGlitch]

The way I see it, time travel is too complex and riddled with pardoxes to be of any use or harnessed properly. (i.e. The Grandfather Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox)) There's a lot to read there.

The Grandfather Paradox would not happen, however. The currently most-accepted theory of how time travel would work is the closed causal loop theory. It states that if you go back in time and change something, you enter/create an alternate reality which you are not from. So nothing from your original timeline would change, it would just seem that way because you would travel forward into the new timeline. If you killed your parents before you were born, then you would still exist.

For example, let's say you currently exist in timeline ABC:

A>>>>>>>B>>>>>>>>C

Now, you go back in time to point B and change something. This does not effect the future of timeline ABC or alter the half BC. Instead, you create an alternate timeline ABD:

A>>>>>>B>>>>>>>C
...............V
...............V
...............V
...............D

So now everyone who exists in the original timeline ABC is completely unaffected, other than the fact that you disappeared and never came back. But you also can't return to timeline ABC because whereas the pivotal difference between timeline ABC and timeline ABD is the occurrence at Point B, going back to Point B to fix what you did would make the pivotal difference of you going back and preventing yourself from changing the events of Point B, and you would create timeline ABE. And so on forever.

So if the government was capable of time travel, then it is more than likely that their agents are now just lost in alternate, parallel realities to our own. We would have nothing to worry about because in all likelyhood our lives would not be able to be affected by such acts.

[Green Hat Linux]

nicely put, MasterGlitch, at least in my opinion :)